This past weekend I saw the greatest action movie of the summer. The Bourne Ultimatum stars a dark and world-weary Jason Bourne, ready to beat people silly to get answers that will put his demons to rest. Matt Damon is phenomenal as Jason Bourne, and over the course of the three movies he has truly made the role his own. As I left the theater after what felt like a non-stop, two hour adrenaline rush, I started thinking about other uber-spies, and how they stacked up against each other. For whatever reason, the first name that popped into my head was that of 24's Jack Bauer (perhaps because I have come to find him increasingly irritating lately).
The best way to determine the better agent in anything other than a barroom brawl in a closed room is to look at the major weapons in each agent's arsenal: street smarts, tech smarts, and martial arts. I would define street smarts as an awareness of one's environment and the ability to manipulate said environment; tech smarts would be the ability to use advanced technology to one's advantage; and martial arts would be one's proficiency in combat (armed and unarmed).
Street Smarts
While both Bauer and Bourne show amazing street smarts, I feel that Bourne has the upper hand here. Bauer is overly reliant on CTU assistance for many of his infiltrations and enemy confrontations. Be it multiple gigabyte blueprints that are instantly transmitted to his PDA or his near constant voice connection to CTU via an always-charged cell phone, Bauer is constantly supported by CTU. Bourne, on the other hand, has repeatedly proven to adapt and improvise solo in order to make his way out of, or into, any location - be it highly-guarded embassies, covert CIA headquarters, or off-the-grid safe-houses. Bourne comes equipped with an innate sixth sense that lets him adapt spontaneously to whatever environment he finds himself in, whereas Bauer cannot do so without CTU assistance. Advantage Bourne.
Tech Smarts
I will not try to argue the absurdity of the technology at Bauer's disposal. Even if you disregard the fact that all of the US's spy satellites are seemingly at Bauer's disposal whenever he gets bored, even the least tech-savvy has to admit that some of the things on 24 defy common sense. My favorite remains a scene from season 1, where Bauer is looking over Chloe's shoulder while they try to figure out the connection between a plane bombing and a train derailment. Although I'm hazy on the details, I remember Bauer asking Chloe to hack into some airline's database to pull the passenger manifest for the last week (done at the push of a button), and then to hack into the train's logs for the last week (also done at the push of a button). He then tells Chloe to "merge the databases" which, amazingly, Chloe does and ... wait for it ... you actually see the visual representations of these two "databases" merging on screen. There's not enough room on this blog for me to explain how ridiculous this is on multiple levels, but unfortunately, we have to use that which we are given. And unfortunately CTU LA has at its disposal some of the craziest technology in the world.
Bourne, on the other hand, uses little to no technology, and instead gets his information the old fashioned way - surveillance, informants, or good-old physical coercion. Bourne's tech smarts come in the form of knowledge of surveillance and tracking techniques, and how best to defeat these. Case in point: the CIA's best minds spend three movies trying to track him, and Bourne is able to consistently evade his hunters. This then just comes down to what is better - having technology at your disposal, or having the ability to defeat that technology. I'm a technophile, and I have to believe that you can't outrun technology forever, so Advantage Bauer.
Martial Arts
I've been a practitioner of the martial arts for the last 13 years (with stupid b-school getting in the way of things), and although I'm no walking killing machine, I have some knowledge of the combat depicted in 24 and in the Bourne movies. Jack Bauer's single greatest martial art move appears to be his ability to yell at amazingly loud levels whenever he confronts an opponent - "MY NAME IS JACK BAUER. PUT YOUR HANDS UP OR I WILL SHOOT!" This usually turns his opponents into quivering masses of jello. If, however, this does not work, Jack will put someone in a choke hold, strike the side of their neck, or generally do something equally goofy that works every time for him. It doesn't matter whether Jack's opponent is a mall security guard or the Presidential Secret Service detail. They all fall for simple punch-kick routines.
Bourne, on the other hand, kicks major ass using impressive martial arts techniques. You only have to watch him combat the assassins sent to eliminate him to understand how lethal Bourne can be using everyday items (heck, in the second movie he beat a German assassin silly using just a paper magazine). From what 24 provides, I can't believe that a Bauer-Bourne fight would last long at all. Advantage Bourne.
Winner: Jason Bourne
So there you have it. Jason Bourne is the better spy. And I'm glad, because while 24 has devolved into a nuisance that I refuse to watch next season, the Bourne series have spent time working on realism. We see Bourne's vulnerability, we see him get hurt, we feel the pain of every punch that he lands. Bauer just runs around scowling and yelling at people.
By the way, while I was writing this, I realized that there are three "JB" initialled heroes that I know of in the same genre - Jack Bauer, Jason Bourne, and James Bond. Further, a "J" first name appears quite popular: "Jim" Phelps of Mission Impossible, "John" McLane of Die Hard, and "Jack" Ryan of Tom Clancy novels come to mind right away. Why is "JB" so popular? Why is a simple first name starting with "J" a passport to becoming a super-cop? Or am I just a victim of a selection bias?
Wednesday, August 8, 2007
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I am in love with the Bourne movies and with Jason Bourne and his bad-assness. They are incredibly well done and I will be first in line to buy the triple DVD set when it's out. SO good! I have never watched 24 though and after reading your recent annoyance with the show, I'm less inclined to even start the series.
ReplyDeleteBtw, how's work going?
I have to say that I hate the fantasy technology of 24.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't classify the character's technology skills, but how realistic is.
As you mentioned, Jack Bauer can have live streaming from spy satellites and have the satellites orbiting just where he needs whenever he wants to use it. Hack to computers and do some computer black magic to get to his targets.
Even if in Bourne they are abusing of technology a little bit (like live streaming of cameras in europe to the a cia station in the United States and instantaneous hacking to camera surveillance), they are still "plausible". They didn't invent new uber cool technology like rocker launchers in a bmw, or a live streaming in a tdma cellular phone. They use existent text messaging, some possible very über-high bandwidth (internet2, point to point terabytes per second?) for live video streaming, and special local access to public surveillance cameras, and unrestricted accesses to public and private databases (who need warrants, anyway?).
Bourne clones a cellphone, extracting a sim card and pluging it to a cloning device. Perfectly plausible, you can get those anywhere.
Then a Frequency Scanner to unlock car alarms randomly in a garage. Perfectly plausible too, I can get one of those by myself.
In Bourne movies they even use Google, Google Maps, Norton Antivirus (!) and Windows!. Those details adds a earthier effect in the movie, the realistic touch.
I think that Bourne is much more realistic technologically than any movie ever. If he just hired a hacker and showed them using nmap, kismet, cain or a perl script shell, I would be in my geek orgasm.
By the way Jason Bourne is much more tech smart than James Bond.
ReplyDeleteBourne uses it ingeniously with real technology or abuses technology macgyver-wise. That means understanding technology, even if he doesn't carry it everywhere. Remember how he opens the safe with a digital recorder and some scotch tape to get the fingerprint.
Bond uses technology that doesn't exist. I don't remember in which Bond movie the guy just "scans" the residual fingerprints with his cellphone, and then he leans the screen on the biometric sensor.
yeah, sure.
Bond without his gadgets is useless and clueless of the technology he is carrying.
Bourne doesn't carry fancy superspy gadgets but he knows how things work.
Who is more tech smart then? The one who knows technology works?
Or the one who is clueless but has to rely mechanically to technology?
I'm watching 24 right now, the 4th season, so far Jason Bourne is a winner, beacuse he always work alone, is always like Jason vs The US goberment or the CIA, and he manages to scape, but no doubt if we put jack and jason in a fight jason will kill him, jack is always using a gun a yelling to people, I will love to see a season were jack has to catch jason bourne!!! nice post!
ReplyDeletethis "contest id soooo messed up. U cannot compare them. They have completely different roles. I agree bourne has much better hand to hand fighting but u missed the fact that i would DEFINATELY choose bauer over bourne to have on my side in a gunfight. Second, BAUER IS NOT ALWAYS WITH CTU!!!!! how many seasons have u watched! season 5 he's WANTED by the US GOVERNMENT for like half the season and still manages to stop the terrorists. Also you mentioned the "ability to manipulate and situation to his advantage or something like that/" WHEN HAVE U SEEN BOURNE TALK HIS WAY OUT OF A STICKY SITUATION!!! NEVER!!!!! HE"S NOT A SPY HE"S AN ASSASIN!!! THAT"S WHY YOU CAN"T COMPARE THEM!! bauer isn't even a "spy". he's a federal agent that goes undercover sometimes, and yes, he CAN talk his way out of situations and manipulate situations as well as people to his advantage.(season 3!!!!) (An more REALISTIC spy would be Michael westen, from burn notice) Also, has Bourne ever been CAPTURED???????? has he had to resist TORTURE????!!!! NO!!! NEVER!!!! and yet Bauer HAS!!!! Your comparison is woefully incomplete with just three catagories. especially since the "tech savy" catagory hardly says who's better. (it's not really a skill, it's what you have at your disposal) Overall, bourne beats him in unarmed combat and bourne is smarter but not by much. However, bauer tools on jason with a gun, and has done all the things i have mentioned which we;ve never seen jason do. hence you can't really compare them. also about "bauer's best move"????? uhhhhh, you should really rewatch that show. Bauer has some sick unarmed combat skill. (season 2 ep. 24, season 5 ep. 23....etc.)(i could go on forever. again, bourne is an assasin, not a spy OR a federal sgent.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the Martial Arts ide of things go Jack Bauer does still pack some good combat moves which compare quite nicely to Jason Bournes....not really suprising since they are both based upon the Israeli Armed Forced style of Krav Maga.
ReplyDeleteI don't know who has the most amount of free time though, you for posting this or me for actually replying ;)
actually if you watch the extra's on the actual bourne dvd's the martial concepts are derived from phillipino martial arts under the umbrella term of kali, also known as escrima or arnis. the unarmed part of that system is called panantukan. they are extremely similar to isreali krav maga or the militaristic form of kapap but they are different and are not based on each other but merely bleed into each other, the foundations of the systems, and they are systems as they are continually evolving have completely different origins. research before you post or at least watch the dvd properly.
Deletethis is an old post but it's definately worth a friendly mention here i think.
this is not a contest bauer could handle bourne with ease can someone tell me how in a hand to hand fight bourne is better just as somone earlier said bauer has been captured and managed to escape althought i am a huge fan of jason bourne and i like him better bauer has the edge here
ReplyDeleteTheir roles are different; as someone mentioned earlier bourne is an assassin and bauer is a federal agent so they go about things differently, so its not easy to compare them a better comparison would be Michael westen (burn notice). Bourne's street smarts are better, but it has to be since he'a working alone and bauer has help most of the time. U also have to look at what their end games are, bourne is trying to uncover his past while Bauer is trying to stop terrorist stacks and skems and save America. So since their goals are different so will the way they go about achieving that goal. Since bourne is an assassin he has more training and martial arts experience because of his job and he has to be able to know how technology works so that he can beat it to stay invisible as an assassin. Yet u can't rule out the fact that bourne never been captured is had to under go the amount of torture that baker has experience ed and bourne has never had to give something up to save his country. Bauer defiantly has the edge in technology, but again its something he needs to do his job and accounplish his goal and bourne needs to understand technology, but doesn't need it as much because he's alone. again their both good at what they do, but u really can't compare them because their different.
ReplyDeleteJust saw this but Bourne has Bauer hands down. It's so simple.
ReplyDeleteTo start with, Bauer would never be able to FIND Bourne before it's too late. Jason would be looking at Jack through a scope while calling him from across the street while Jack was looking for him in another country.
Second, Bourne was an assassin... trained to kill. Bauer would lose as that was not his area of training.
Third, Bourne was trained to take out people like Bauer. Bauer was not trained to handle anything remotely similar to the ability of Bourne.
Just like in the Bourne movies, Jack would be one of the CIA field agents, part of a team looking for Bourne. He would not be one of the assets sent to kill Bourne. This would be a no contest.
I am big fan of Jack Bauer and watch his TV show 24: Live Another Day. I watch full episodes of this TV series. In season 1 there was lots of action crime and drama. TV show was highly popular in peoples and got position in top rated Hollywood TV shows.
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